Showing posts with label The Psychedelic Furs. Show all posts
Showing posts with label The Psychedelic Furs. Show all posts

Thursday, May 23, 2024

Gavin Rossdale on The Psychedelic Furs


On the website Consequence Gavin Rossdale, the frontman of the post grunge band Bush, was chosen to list his 10 favorite albums by British artists and the interesting thing is that The Psychedelic Furs' first album was included! Here's what Gavin had to say about the debut:


"Well, I had to include that because that first record, Psychedelic Furs, was one of the first albums I had as a kid. It's one of those records that I know backwards, start to finish. I don't talk about Richard Butler enough, because I think he's one of my favorite singers. Really, just an amazing band. It's one of those brilliant records where, and it's true with all of these records, I put them on and they just take me to a better place, you know what I mean? Just transports me — and that's when music beats life, and it helps you against all the struggles that we're forced to endure. So just an amazing record, an amazing band.

"And [Richard Butler's] a really good artist as well. He's a painter. I had a chance to buy one of his paintings. I was in New York a few years ago, and I dunno why I didn't get it. I'm really, like, dumb. He's excellent. I gotta find one."


And Gavin talked about his favorite song on the album, which is "Sister Europe":


"That big song in there for me was 'Sister Europe.' I grew up with my sister, and so having a song about the 'sister of mine' and all part of the scene that we're in and the young punks and the kind of cool things that were happening in London… I have deep memories for that band."

Monday, October 23, 2023

Behind the Songs: Wedding Song




John Ashton: "I'd say that fifty percent of what I heard on that first [demo] tape is there on the first album. We'd written a few things together - 'India,' 'Wedding Song' - but I think the whole sound of the Psychedelic Furs evolved around that year." (Musician 1987)


John Ashton (on how the band came up with the song during the sessions for the first album): "We had recorded a version of 'India,' and were looking for another song for the album. The sax player was playing this riff, and Steve Lillywhite said, 'That's a great riff there - you should build a song around that.' We started with Vince [Ely] laying down this bit, and then it just came, like just not thinking about it." (Musician 1987)


Interviewer: "It seems you're not too fond of the institution of marriage. There's 'Wrong Train' on [Made Of Rain] and songs dating back to the first album, 'Fall' and 'Wedding Song.' Is that accurate?"

Richard Butler: "Yeah, especially then."

Interviewer: "What about now?"

Richard Butler: "I'm actually engaged to be married this summer [laughs], so I've changed my mind about it a little." (Tidal 2020)

Thursday, April 7, 2022

Behind the Songs: Fall




Richard Butler: "As for pressures, [CBS] signed us for the material we're doing. The first single will either be 'We Love You' or 'Fall' and the first album is going to be the material we're doing now. So there's no pressure on us, we do it our way." (New Musical Express 1979)


Richard Butler: "You know the line from 'Fall': 'Needles on the beach at Goa, you will have another flower'? I heard all these people went out as hippies and became junkies when they got to Goa; somebody told me the beach actually crunched under your feet with hypodermic syringes. I thought that was great.... I had to use it." (Musician 1983)


John Ashton: "A lot of [The Psychedelic Furs] was pre-written by virtue of the fact that the band had been around a couple of years. So there were songs there. I joined the band in '78, and 'Sister Europe' was already a song, a version of 'Imitation Of Christ' was there, 'We Love You' was already there. And there were other songs that were coming along, like 'India,' that I brought to the band. 'Fall' was another, and 'Blacks/Radio,' which was just kind of a jam." (Popdose 2012)


Interviewer: "It seems you're not too fond of the institution of marriage. There's 'Wrong Train' on [Made Of Rain] and songs dating back to the first album, 'Fall' and 'Wedding Song.' Is that accurate?"

Richard Butler: "Yeah, especially then."

Interviewer: "What about now?"

Richard Butler: "I'm actually engaged to be married this summer [laughs], so I've changed my mind about it a little." (Tidal 2020)


Behind the Songs: Susan's Strange



Interviewer: "After The Psychedelic Furs came out in the UK, you did a couple of tracks ["Susan's Strange" and "Soap Commercial"] with Martin Hannett."

Richard Butler: "We tried out Martin Hannett because I really liked the way that the John Cooper Clarke album sounded."

Interviewer: "Rather than Joy Division."

Richard Butler: "I liked Joy Division, but it was more to do with John Cooper Clarke – another obvious Bob Dylan wannabe! So we tried Martin Hannett out but we didn't like it. It was too murky."

Interviewer: "Was there any personal conflict there?"

Richard Butler: "No, not at all. We just didn't like the sound of it." (iJamming! 2001)


John Ashton: "We got to work with Martin Hannett right around the Talk Talk Talk period when Steve [Lillywhite] wasn't around. We got to cut some tracks with Martin Hannett which ended up being on the domestic issue of the first album. I think it was 'Susan's Strange' and 'Soap Commercial.' These songs replaced 'Blacks/Chaos/Radio' and they were produced by Martin Hannett." (Everyone Loves Guitar podcast 2021)


Interviewer: "Martin Hannett also did some production work on that first album?"

Tim Butler: "Yeah, he produced 'Susan's Strange', and, what was the other one he produced? I've forgotten the other one, oh, 'Soap Commercial', which weren't on the English version of that album, because on the English version of that album we had a track called 'Blacks/Radio/Chaos', it was like a long jamming track, and CBS thought it sounded like it was racist but it wasn't. So on the US copy of that album, we put 'Susan's Strange' and 'Soap Commercial' on it." (The Collapse Board 2024)


Behind the Songs: Flowers

Photo: Tom Sheehan


Richard Butler (on being asked if "India" was about what the Guru government had done in India for years): "That's more the theme of 'Flowers.'" (Sounds 1981 [German magazine])


John Ashton: "I love the first [album] too. I love a lot of things about it, like 'Flowers,' but the second album I felt I really drove headfirst in and got lost in it." (Goldmine 1998)


Tim Butler: "I think we had a couple of songs that came out of jamming around one song onstage, and something would develop. 'India' came out of that, from the intro to 'Flowers' off the first album. That's a bit psychedelicky. Though there were no psychedelic drugs involved. Maybe a few pints of lager! Maybe more than that." (Tower Records 2020)


Tim Butler: "Some of those songs live were even longer than they were on [The Psychedelic Furs], and different songs would come out of jamming around – I think 'India' was originally an intro for 'Flowers'." (Uncut 2020)


John Ashton (on hearing a demo tape of The Furs given to him right before he joined the band): "I put the tape on and I really liked it. There were early versions of 'We Love You,' 'Blacks/Chaos/Radio,' which didn't make it on the US domestic release but was on the original United Kingdom release; maybe 'Flowers,' another one. They were very much of the punk edgy sort of harder songs. Maybe 'Pulse' as well, I'm not sure." (Everyone Loves Guitar podcast, 2021)


Behind the Songs: Pulse




Tim Butler: "There was this thing in this magazine recently, that said that 'Pulse' was like a truncated 'Peter Gunn' theme. And we'd never heard of it." (Sounds 1979)


John Ashton: "'Pulse' started as an A... Someone said 'Dog [Roger Morris], play on A' and it just sort of went from there." (ZigZag 1979)


Richard Butler: "The first verse is about styles, everybody dyeing their hair, all about fashion. The second verse is about religion. The third verse is saying people like you do that. This is the pulse...everybody, when they're young, is a Commie." (ZigZag 1979)


Tim Butler: "One chord can make a great song!" (Should God Forget liner notes, 1997)


John Ashton (on hearing a demo tape of The Furs given to him right before he joined the band): "I put the tape on and I really liked it. There were early versions of 'We Love You,' 'Blacks/Chaos/Radio,' which didn't make it on the US domestic release but was on the original United Kingdom release; maybe 'Flowers,' another one. They were very much of the punk edgy sort of harder songs. Maybe 'Pulse' as well, I'm not sure." (Everyone Loves Guitar podcast, 2021)


Saturday, April 2, 2022

Behind the Songs: Soap Commercial

Photo: Andrew Douglas


Richard Butler (on producer Martin Hannett): "His forte is getting really weird sounds. He made a tape loop for us when we were doing 'Soap Commercial.' It was about 14 feet long. It went around a stand that the speaker was on and right into the tape room which was right over the desk. No, it might not have been 'Soap Commercial'... (WCUT-FM Radio 1981)


John Ashton: "When I first got to America I realized there really was a Channel 9." (Should God Forget liner notes, 1997)


Interviewer: "After The Psychedelic Furs came out in the UK, you did a couple of tracks ["Susan's Strange" and "Soap Commercial"] with Martin Hannett."

Richard Butler: "We tried out Martin Hannett because I really liked the way that the John Cooper Clarke album sounded."

Interviewer: "Rather than Joy Division."

Richard Butler: "I liked Joy Division, but it was more to do with John Cooper Clarke – another obvious Bob Dylan wannabe! So we tried Martin Hannett out but we didn't like it. It was too murky."

Interviewer: "Was there any personal conflict there?"

Richard Butler: "No, not at all. We just didn't like the sound of it." (iJamming! 2001)


John Ashton: "We got to work with Martin Hannett right around the Talk Talk Talk period when Steve [Lillywhite] wasn't around. We got to cut some tracks with Martin Hannett which ended up being on the domestic issue of the first album. I think it was 'Susan's Strange' and 'Soap Commercial.' These songs replaced 'Blacks/Chaos/Radio' and they were produced by Martin Hannett." (Everyone Loves Guitar podcast 2021)


Interviewer: "What are your favorite classic Psychedelic Furs songs to play?"

Rich Good: "'Soap Commercial', 'Sister Europe', 'Dumb Waiters', 'Only You And I', 'Alice's House'… Honestly, there's not really any I don't like playing." (Post-Punk.com 2022)


Interviewer: "Martin Hannett also did some production work on that first album?"

Tim Butler: "Yeah, he produced 'Susan's Strange', and, what was the other one he produced? I've forgotten the other one, oh, 'Soap Commercial', which weren't on the English version of that album, because on the English version of that album we had a track called 'Blacks/Radio/Chaos', it was like a long jamming track, and CBS thought it sounded like it was racist but it wasn't. So on the US copy of that album, we put 'Susan's Strange' and 'Soap Commercial' on it." (The Collapse Board 2024)


Saturday, October 16, 2021

Behind the Songs: Blacks/Radio



Richard Butler: "That actually comes from a quote by Andy Warhol. Somebody said, 'What do you think of the black people?' and he replied, 'Oh, I love them, if it wasn't for the blacks in the South, my father's refrigerator factory would close down.' The song's built around the quote." (ZigZag 1979)


Duncan Kilburn (on the "Chaos" and "Radio" segments of the song): "That's two songs that we've been doing for some time, linked together." (ZigZag 1979)


Tim Butler: "On the first 'Chaos', me and the drummer keep up a beat and everybody else does the chaos. On the last one, everything just goes wild." (ZigZag 1979)


Roger Morris: "I think what we're trying to do is play some bits more straightforward to make the chaos stand out even more." (ZigZag 1979)


Interviewer: "Some of your songs could be deemed controversial, don't you think, cos of the titles?"

Richard Butler: "Yeah, well we've had all that. We played at Portsmouth Polytechnic – they think they're clever students down there and they're all into this leftist scene. Anyway, they thought: 'Well, this song is called "Blacks"', and immediately they started throwing bottles and glasses cos they thought it was racist." (Slash 1980)


Tim Butler (on the night of the Portsmouth Polytechnic concert): "One of the guys who was throwing glasses actually walked up to the social secretary of the college and said: 'Those guys – I just heard them saying in the song that black people have got smaller brains than white people'. He swore he heard it, which is rubbish, cos it's about a quote that Andy Warhol made about white people getting rich off the fruits of black people's labor." (Slash 1980)


Richard Butler: "On the first album all the lyrics were written around the fact that I didn't think that you could be a good writer and sing from a personal point of view. There was a song called 'Girl's Song' that was eventually dropped which was sung from a girl's point of view, there's a song like 'Blacks' which is sung from a middle class prat's point of view, now I want to write from a narrative point of view." (Sounds 1980)


John Ashton: "'Blacks' and 'Radio' I don't think came out that well on vinyl because they're a feeling more than anything else. Maybe they should have been put out as live things." (ZigZag 1980)


Richard Butler: "It's funny 'cause the song 'Blacks' was - a lot of people have thought it's racist before. It's in fact very tongue-in-cheek in that it comes from a comment made by Andy Warhol. Somebody said to him - 'What do you think of the Black people?', and he said 'If it wasn't for the Blacks in the south, my father's refrigerator factory would close down.' He was being very [__] taking and it's taking a [__] at racism. People don't see it, yet people are throwing things. For anybody to think we're a racist band is absolutely ridiculous 'cause we're all intelligent people here." (Overview 1981)


Interviewer: "Do you recall the first song ever written by the group?"

Richard Butler: "I think it was 'Blacks/Radio'." (Overview 1981)


John Ashton: "I've forgotten (thankfully) how many takes of this it took to get the transition to sound like 'the Furs on a good night.'" (Should God Forget liner notes, 1997)


Tim Butler (on the song being replaced on US editions of The Psychedelic Furs): "I think the whole reason why the US didn't want to use 'Blacks' was for the Warhol line. People were constantly asking, 'What's this? Is this racist or what?' And Richard would say, 'No, Andy Warhol would say it as a way of poking fun at that whole thing.' I think that's one of the reasons though that CBS decided to replace the track. Plus they probably wanted to have more US friendly, melodic songs, as opposed to some avalanche of melody." (Goldmine 1998)


Tim Butler: "We had learnt more how to write songs. Talk Talk Talk is still aggressive and passionate, which the first one was as well, but the songs are more sculpted, more song-like, they're not jams. Things like 'India' and 'Blacks/Radio' you go into a studio and jam them. Whereas on Talk Talk Talk, we spent some time actually formulating the structures." (Goldmine 1998)


Interviewer: "The US edition of the debut album was different."

Richard Butler: "[Columbia] thought 'Blacks/Radio' was racist, which on a superficial level you could think that it was. That was taken from an Andy Warhol quote. He was asked if he liked black people and as usual, he replied very tongue in cheek. 'If it wasn't for the blacks in the south, my father's refrigerator business would close down.' I thought, 'Wow that's a great quote' and used it and then people didn't see the irony in it."

Interviewer: "When it was pulled was that a fight?"

Richard Butler: "Not really. We loved the fact that the album was going to be released in America for one thing, and that it would give us the chance to come over and tour." (iJamming! 2001)


John Ashton: "A lot of [The Psychedelic Furs] was pre-written by virtue of the fact that the band had been around a couple of years. So there were songs there. I joined the band in '78, and 'Sister Europe' was already a song, a version of 'Imitation Of Christ' was there, 'We Love You' was already there. And there were other songs that were coming along, like 'India,' that I brought to the band. 'Fall' was another, and 'Blacks/Radio,' which was just kind of a jam." (Popdose 2012)


Interviewer: "I have to tell you, I still come over all funny whilst listening to 'Blacks/Radio.' It's one of my Psychedelic Furs faves - a mad, dance-able tune with bizarre lyrics. I've bounced around in bouts of idiot glee to that many times. Only a few years that I really paid attention to the lyrics. It seems to remain pertinent, touching on black slave labor, white privilege, the fetishization of modern commodities, the stupidity of yuppie culture, ennui..am I reading it the way you penned it?"

Richard Butler: "(Smiling) You are reading 'Blacks/Radio' the way it was written." (Whitehot Magazine 2016)


John Ashton (on hearing a demo tape of The Furs given to him right before he joined the band): "I put the tape on and I really liked it. There were early versions of 'We Love You,' 'Blacks/Chaos/Radio,' which didn't make it on the US domestic release but was on the original United Kingdom release; maybe 'Flowers,' another one. They were very much of the punk edgy sort of harder songs. Maybe 'Pulse' as well, I'm not sure." (Everyone Loves Guitar podcast, 2021)


Interviewer: "Martin Hannett also did some production work on that first album?"

Tim Butler: "Yeah, he produced 'Susan's Strange', and, what was the other one he produced? I've forgotten the other one, oh, 'Soap Commercial', which weren't on the English version of that album, because on the English version of that album we had a track called 'Blacks/Radio/Chaos', it was like a long jamming track, and CBS thought it sounded like it was racist but it wasn't. So on the US copy of that album, we put 'Susan's Strange' and 'Soap Commercial' on it." (The Collapse Board 2024)

Monday, October 4, 2021

Behind the Songs: We Love You




Richard Butler: "As for pressures, [CBS] signed us for the material we're doing. The first single will either be 'We Love You' or 'Fall' and the first album is going to be the material we're doing now. So there's no pressure on us, we do it our way." (New Musical Express 1979)


Richard Butler: "When we got the name, the Psychedelic Furs, we started thinking how we actually believed in the Psychedelic thing. The hippies used to say 'We love everything'. This is just listing the things that you have to say that you love in order to say that, and when you put it down like that, it becomes ridiculous. You've gotta love everybody who does [__] on everybody else, and people who drop bombs, and pretty things." (ZigZag 1979)


Richard Butler: "I'm angry about whatever the song's about. 'We Love You' is sarcasm, because you can't have the old attitude... the old hippy thing was let everything be all right. All that puttin' flowers down guns at Kent State University, and all that business, it doesn't work. I mean 'I'm in love with the nuclear bomb' – it's taking the old psychedelic attitude and taking the [__] out of it. I'm attacking that philosophy. I resent it. I think it's a pathetic attitude to have." (New York Rocker 1980)


Interviewer: "Was there a particular reason why you chose 'We Love You' as the first single, cos it's got the same title as that Stones' song from their psychedelic era?"

Richard Butler: "It was really to establish the difference between us and the old psychedelic bands, cos they used to go round saying: 'Oh yeah, we love you. We love everything, nan', and like putting flowers down rifles at Yale University – things like that. If you say 'We love everything' it just sounds so stupid really. The song is just being very sarcastic. It's not a very positive statement for us – not as much as the other songs, but we brought it out as a single first to show how distant we are from the original psychedelic way. We wanted it to be apparent from the beginning." (Slash 1980)


Richard Butler: "'We Love You' doesn't get played much on the radio here cos the lyrics are a little bit inflammatory, I think. Things like 'I'm in love with Catholics' and 'I'm in love with Althia and Donna / All that [__] that goes uptown ranking'. You know, if you're thinking about it, that could be construed as a racist statement, which it absolutely isn't. It's just taking the [__] out of other records all the way along cos it says: 'I'm in love with Frank Sinatra / Fly Me to the Moon' and 'I'm in love with The Supremes / Oh,"Baby Love"', so the Althia and Donna / 'Uptown Top ranking' thing is just a continuation of that – saying what a lot of [__] records get put on, really." (Slash 1980)


Richard Butler: "[CBS] signed us because of what we were doing, so for them to change it at this stage would be stupid. We went in and said that we wanted 'We Love You' as the first single cos, as I said, we weren't worried so much about separating ourselves from the punk scene as from the original psychedelic scene, and we thought we'd do it straightaway; and then we said we wanted Steve Lillywhite to produce the album, cos he'd seen us a few times and is really into the band, and we got exactly that. And I designed the singles bag and all the promotion material, and I'll do the album cover, hopefully in conjunction with this poster company called 'Times Ten' so, you know, we've done everything we wanted to really...I can only say that we got a good deal. CBS immediately assigned us to an A&R man – Howard Thompson – to work closely with us. Apparently they're trying to get back to the small company type of thing, and we're the band they're trying it out with." (Slash 1980)


Tim Butler: "We used to play the Roxy club in '76, and you'd see all these punks who wouldn't know what to make of songs like 'We Love You'. We still have the same attitudes and ideas as in the '60s, but we don't sit around with headbands and long hair talking about it." (Soho Weekly 1980)


Interviewer: "What's the inspiration for 'We Love You'?"

Tim Butler: "Just taking the [__] out of all those '60s concepts like peace and love, man. You understand 'takin' the [__]'?" (Soho Weekly 1980)


Richard Butler (on the topic of unruly audiences): "That was kind of typical at the early gigs, I think... that when we played the punk clubs... when you got a name like The Psychedelic Furs, and if you can imagine being in 1977 when punk's at its height and everybody's playing at 90 miles an hour and singing about a list of things that they hate, which is what the punk bands are doing. And then you get a band called The Psychedelic Furs going on and playing 'We Love You.' We had some bad reactions then, I think." (Interchords promo interview LP, 1981)


Richard Butler: "That is a list – partly of sarcasm. I've just been singing about things a bit negative, now I'm talking about sarcasm. Yeah, it was our, what, first [single] in England, Europe which didn't do very well. But it's a great song; I enjoy it." (WCUT-FM Radio 1981)


Richard Butler: "People weren't really ready in England for that song at the time we made it. They are now though." (WCUT-FM Radio 1981)


Duncan Kilburn: "['Sister Europe'] was the first single... actually no, it's the second single off the first album – the first being 'We Love You' – which came out about two months before the album." (WCUT-FM Radio 1981)


Interviewer: "Certain images keep cropping up in songs like 'So Run Down' and 'We Love You': blue cars, shoes, trains, cigarettes. Are cultural symbols really important to you?"

Richard Butler: "Yes, but they don't make that much of a difference. What the songs are basically trying to say is, 'Don't believe that anything is what you're told it is - don't believe the word love means holding hands and giving each other flowers, and talking to each other in baby talk and all that.' It's like you're told what love is through the media, through advertising. All the songs are saying is make up your mind as to what love is; all they're saying is don't believe what you're told to be." (Unknown source, 1981)


Richard Butler (on not being bothered by people who miss the point of the lyrics): "It's always the same though. With any band you get idiots listening to it. Like when 'We Love You' gets played in the clubs, people listening to it don't realize the sarcasm. I expect it. You have to. I'm just happy when somebody does understand it.
"But now we don't play 'We Love You.' It is a punky sounding song – not that we ever were punk, but closer to it than now. We don't sound like that anymore." (Boston Rock 1983)


Richard Butler (in response to interviewer Peter Antony saying the first album's from 1979): "No no, we were signed in '79. I think the first album might have been 1980. The first single ['We Love You'] was the end of '79." (Radio Luxembourg 1987)


Richard Butler: "I don't feel like writing 'We Love You' again, that punk energy stuff... I think hitting a chord or a snare will automatically get an energy kick but it's superficial, it's like... sugar. I like something that broods a bit more, that's somehow darker than that, more sombre than that, and that's the kind of music I like to listen to." (New Musical Express 1989)


Richard Butler: "'We Love You' was the first single released by the Psychedelic Furs. It came in an Andy Warhol-ish picture sleeve, with a day-glo radio on the cover, thoroughly garish. We felt that 3 1/2 minutes of withering sarcasm under the misleading title of 'We Love You' was an ideal way to introduce the band."

John Ashton: "This was the first song I had ever heard by the Furs. It was called 'Cars' then." (Should God Forget liner notes, 1997)


John Ashton: "A lot of [The Psychedelic Furs] was pre-written by virtue of the fact that the band had been around a couple of years. So there were songs there. I joined the band in '78, and 'Sister Europe' was already a song, a version of 'Imitation Of Christ' was there, 'We Love You' was already there. And there were other songs that were coming along, like 'India,' that I brought to the band. 'Fall' was another, and 'Blacks/Radio,' which was just kind of a jam." (Popdose 2012)


Tim Butler: "The only time I really sang was in the early days when I used to do backing vocals on 'Imitation Of Christ' and 'We Love You' and it just got to where it was sounding like Richard in a harmonizer. I decided to give up." (Songfacts 2013)


Interviewer: "Can you remember the first time you and Richard wrote a song together?"

Tim Butler: "We wrote the first song together in our parents' front room. There was Richard, myself, Roger [Morris], our original guitarist and Simon my other brother. We were jamming around and came up with 'We Love You.'" (Outline Magazine 2017)


Tim Butler: "We didn't really know how to play at the beginning, and we'd go onstage and jam around a song like 'We Love You' or 'Imitation Of Christ' sometimes for 20 minutes! People were ready for a change, they'd got tired of jumping up and down to three minute songs with nihilistic lyrics." (Outline Magazine 2017)


Interviewer: "That blazing first single, 'We Love You', was quite the calling card for the 1980 debut album, a manifesto riddled with attitude and sass."

Richard Butler: "Yes – it was very sarcastic! But I always loved sarcasm. I loved Bob Dylan's sarcasm and cruelty on songs like 'Positively 4th Street'. Was I really in love with The Supremes? Well, I was probably being sarcastic back then, but now I actually do love them. It mentions Frank Sinatra, too, and I don't really care for him that much. I suppose you have to respect that he doesn't sound like anyone else, and he had charisma, but I've never been a fan." (Record Collector 2020)


John Ashton (on hearing a demo tape of The Furs given to him right before he joined the band): "I put the tape on and I really liked it. There were early versions of 'We Love You,' 'Blacks/Chaos/Radio,' which didn't make it on the US domestic release but was on the original United Kingdom release; maybe 'Flowers,' another one. They were very much of the punk edgy sort of harder songs. Maybe 'Pulse' as well, I'm not sure." (Everyone Loves Guitar podcast, 2021)

Behind the Songs: Imitation Of Christ

Photo: Ebet Roberts


Richard Butler: "Well, it's about people imitating Christ, I guess..." (ZigZag 1979)


Richard Butler: "Well, we're not new wave and we're not punk. I mean, we do three really slow songs – 'Sister Europe', 'Imitation Of Christ', and 'Sex' [an unreleased song]. We also do 'Mack The Knife' – that Bertolt Brecht and Kurt Weill song – that was written years ago. I don't think we can be classed as 'new wave.'" (Slash 1980)


John Ashton: "'Imitation Of Christ' and 'Sister Europe' are good live songs that came out well in the studio." (ZigZag 1980)


Richard Butler: "It was inspired by – There's a Thomas Kempis book called Imitation Of Christ and there's also an Andy Warhol movie called Imitation Of Christ which sparked off the idea. It's just about walls being made out of religion instead of opening things up and being as generous as they purport. It's just about how they're walls instead." (WCUT-FM Radio 1981)


Richard Butler: "It's about religion, generally. It's not about any aspect of it, specifically. When I heard the title I loved the title. The title was actually a book by a guy called Thomas à Kempis. It's like a... a mystical, Roman Catholic kind of book written years ago. And then I think Andy Warhol picked up on it and did a movie about it and I thought, 'I should do something like that, too [laughs]'. And that's where the title 'Imitation Of Christ' came from." (Interchords 1988)


Richard Butler: "It was one of the first songs the band ever wrote. It goes very much hand in hand with 'Sister Europe'. They're both very lyrical." (Melody Maker 1988)


Richard Butler: "The magic songs like 'Imitation Of Christ' and 'Sister Europe' have is in their fragile nature. It's what I love about some Velvet Underground songs, or Prince's 'The Cross'. They're very fragile and only just hold together and I think that adds something." (Melody Maker 1988)


Richard Butler (on this song and "Sister Europe"): "I think they sound pretty good both going together. They're both from the first album that we did with Steve Lillywhite. They're both very moody songs." (MTV Europe 1988)


John Ashton: "I was experimenting with an early guitar synth, an Arp Avatar. The best thing about it was its Hex Fuzz." (Should God Forget liner notes, 1997)


Interviewer: "From the early days, what reactions were you getting to your lyrics? How did people take 'Imitation Of Christ'?"

Richard Butler: "Well there's a clothing company called Imitation of Christ now (laughs) - and they credited me as the inspiration. Whereas I stole it from a Catholic tract written by [Thomas à Kempis]." (iJamming! 2001)


Richard Butler: "We haven't finished rehearsing yet [for the 2002 tour]. So far, we've been rehearsing about twelve songs. I think we're going to be more 'moody' this time around. We're playing songs like 'Imitation Of Christ'… obviously, we've rehearsed 'The Ghost In You,' because we need to throw some old ones in there… 'Sometimes,' off of World Outside." (Ink 19 2002)


Tim Butler (on his brother Simon): "He was in [the band] for a while… Simon actually helped write 'Imitation Of Christ' and 'India.'" (Intermittent Signals 2011)


John Ashton: "A lot of [The Psychedelic Furs] was pre-written by virtue of the fact that the band had been around a couple of years. So there were songs there. I joined the band in '78, and 'Sister Europe' was already a song, a version of 'Imitation Of Christ' was there, 'We Love You' was already there. And there were other songs that were coming along, like 'India,' that I brought to the band. 'Fall' was another, and 'Blacks/Radio,' which was just kind of a jam." (Popdose 2012)


Tim Butler: "The only time I really sang was in the early days when I used to do backing vocals on 'Imitation Of Christ' and 'We Love You' and it just got to where it was sounding like Richard in a harmonizer. I decided to give up." (Songfacts 2013)


Tim Butler (on The Furs' early years): "I think people may have latched on to us at the time because they were bored with the three-minute format of punk, and they could get lost in long songs like 'Imitation Of Christ' or 'India', you know?" (Tucson Weekly 2013)


Tim Butler: "We didn't really know how to play at the beginning, and we'd go onstage and jam around a song like 'We Love You' or 'Imitation Of Christ' sometimes for 20 minutes! People were ready for a change, they'd got tired of jumping up and down to three minute songs with nihilistic lyrics." (Outline Magazine 2017)


Tim Butler: "For the first album we could barely play our instruments, but we had the attitude, and we'd go onstage and do a 20-minute jam around 'Imitation Of Christ.' Maybe after a few times of doing that, another song would come out of the jamming." (Music-Illuminati 2018)


Interviewer: "[The Psychedelic Furs] seems an album of two parts within, including the debut single, the tremendous 'We Love You', and further more overtly punk-influenced tracks like the hypnotic 'Pulse' and the closing 'Flowers', in a Bowie meets John Lydon style, but also giving us clues to the band you became, tracks like 'Sister Europe' and 'Imitation Of Christ' telling us loud and clear where you might be headed and that you were here to stay."

Tim Butler: "Err, yeah, I think originally when we got together none of us could really play very well, so we'd all pile in if someone came up with a chord sequence, trying to make ourselves heard and stick out in a sort of 'look at me' way. It became that wall of melody, or 'beautiful chaos' as someone dubbed it.
"But with later songs like 'Imitation Of Christ' and 'Sister Europe' I think Steve gave us more direction and took us more away from the punk area. With 'Sister Europe', Richard used to sing it with more of an attitude and some aggression. But Steve said, 'Why don't you imagine it's late at night and tone it down a little bit – not croon it, but sing it more laidback'. And he did, and it gained a lot."

Interviewer: "Absolutely, and you hear that difference in Richard's voice between those tracks, let alone the rest of you in the band."

Tim Butler: "Yeah, I think he realized he had more of a range in the vocal areas than he initially thought. And over the years that got better and better and better. I think he's one of the best, most distinctive vocalists of the last 40 years." (WriteWyattUK 2020)


Tim Butler (on his parents): "From the early days they were really proud of us though. Of course, in the early days there was talk of us getting proper jobs, and how we couldn't rely on this music, but Richard and I have stuck at it, while Simon dropped out and went to university. He was in the original band and co-wrote 'Imitation Of Christ' and 'India'. Yeah, they were always proud of us. When they had friends over they would bring out their scrapbook." (WriteWyattUK 2020)

Behind the Songs: Sister Europe




Richard Butler: "It's basically about my girlfriend, who I've been going out with for years. She's in Italy at the moment." (ZigZag 1979)


Richard Butler (in response to the interviewer saying "Sister Europe" deserved to do better on the charts than only achieve cult status): "Yeah, so do I. But what can you do? It wasn't made with the radio in mind. It was made for people, not the BBC playlist."

Vince Ely: "We were asked to cut its length. Like, you're not supposed to make a six minute record unless it's 'Hey Jude'." (Record Mirror 1980)


Richard Butler: "Well, we're not new wave and we're not punk. I mean, we do three really slow songs – 'Sister Europe', 'Imitation Of Christ', and 'Sex' [an unreleased song]. We also do 'Mack The Knife' – that Bertolt Brecht and Kurt Weill song – that was written years ago. I don't think we can be classed as 'new wave.'" (Slash 1980)


John Ashton: "'Imitation Of Christ' and 'Sister Europe' are good live songs that came out well in the studio." (ZigZag, March 1980)


Duncan Kilburn: "We hope to do most of the new songs [from the upcoming Talk Talk Talk album live]. It would be great not to have to touch the old material apart from the obvious favorites like 'India' and 'Sister Europe'. We're in a better position to play new material live now that we no longer have to promote our first album any more." (ZigZag, October 1980)


Interviewer: "Did it bother you that 'Sister Europe' was initially regarded as a David Bowie [reference]?"

Richard Butler: "As a David Bowie reference? I was never told about that."

Interviewer: "Well, the style of the song; when people first heard it, they thought that it was a David Bowie reference."

Richard Butler: "Yeah, I've heard that before, but I've never heard the thing about the reference. The thing is that when we were recording it, Steve Lillywhite - I used to sing it more aggressively, Steve Lillywhite said - 'Try it this way, just try it. Imagine that the telephone's going at 4:00 in the morning and you're talking on the telephone at 4:00 in the morning.' And that's how I made it sound. There was nothing about trying to make it sound like David Bowie or anything like that. He said make it sound like you're talking on the telephone at 4:00 in the morning and I did. So if you want to ring me at 4:00 in the morning and check it out...do!"

Interviewer: "Your vocal chords seem to be so relaxed on that song. That's how you get that captivating atmosphere."

Richard Butler: "'She Is Mine' is similar to that on [Talk Talk Talk]. That same sort of feeling." (Overview 1981)


Interviewer: "I saw the [video] for 'Sister Europe'."

Richard Butler: "That's not very good." (Overview 1981)


Richard Butler: "When we did it in the studio, I sang it really harsh, like most of our other songs. And Steve Lillywhite, the producer, said 'Why don't you sing it a bit softer?' So I did. I wasn't trying to sound like anybody else. Especially David Bowie, but a lot of people have said since that it sounds like him. Listening to it now, I have to admit they're right, but it wasn't intentional." (Rip It Up 1981)


Richard Butler: "'Sister Europe' is a girl I dated. The girl I had the problems with on Talk Talk Talk. At that time she was here on the continent to learn languages. A pure love song." (Sounds 1981 [German magazine])


Interviewer: "You seem to mention sisters in the same breath as the land, as you do the old homestead, or am I totally wrong?"

Richard Butler: "Sisters in a different sense, like in 'Sister Europe'; it was written for a girlfriend I had. You can get so close to someone that they feel like a sister. When you've been living with someone for a while you get to know them inside out. Sometimes you see these couples – they don't talk to each other; I wonder if they're having a good time." (Unknown source, 1981)


Duncan Kilburn: "It was the first single... actually no, it's the second single off the first album – the first being 'We Love You' – which came out about two months before the album." (WCUT-FM Radio 1981)


Duncan Kilburn: "I think we're quite proud of it, it seems to be a major favorite." (WCUT-FM Radio 1981)


Interviewer: "Your lyrics certainly seem to be getting clearer."

Richard Butler: "Yeah, I think they're clearer now. Certainly on the first [album] it was more a case of just liking the words, liking the image they created and liking the way the words fitted into the music. For instance, 'Sister Europe' – At the time I wrote that, I was going out with a girl [...] and she went off to Italy. But instead of saying 'my bird's gone to Italy and I miss her', I tried to put over the feeling of being sad and low with images." (ZigZag 1983)


Interviewer: "Mirror Moves is the first Furs album to include love songs. I suppose that a lot of your earlier tracks could be defined as love songs but…"

Richard Butler: "I think they were songs about love, better than love songs. 'Sister Europe' was kind of a love song but it was hidden behind imagery." (Aquarian Arts Weekly 1984)


Richard Butler: "I think it's nice to take an audience through a kind of variety of feelings, you know? Like, you might sing 'Love My Way' which is the kind of tender song, and you might sing 'President Gas' which is a really angry one. And you want the audience to feel like – say, in 'Sister Europe' you want them to feel that kind of sad, sort of melancholy, and then in 'India' you want them to feel angry, you know? It's like you want them to... you want to take them through a whole spectrum of feelings." (La Edad de Oro 1984 [Spanish TV])


Richard Butler: "A lot of people have picked up on us through 'Pretty In Pink' (and) I'm glad that it means they're coming down to the shows because we're not presenting just 'Pretty In Pink' or Mirror Moves, we're presenting stuff that goes way back, like 'India' or 'Sister Europe', which I think are important songs." (Winner Magazine 1986)


Richard Butler: "I like to think I bring a certain... edge to it all. A certain sarcasm. However sweet the music becomes, I like to think there's this neurotic side to it. The smoother songs like 'Sister Europe' have always had this part which refuses to be polished." (Sounds 1987)


Richard Butler: "It's a song about drinking too much and being in love [laughs]." (Interchords 1988)


Richard Butler: "I don't think I have a happy voice and uplifting songs like 'Heaven' aren't the type of song I feel we do best. It's a good song, but a little too poppy to be one of my personal favorites. I prefer 'All Of This And Nothing', 'Sister Europe' and the more down songs." (Melody Maker 1988)


Richard Butler: "['Imitation Of Christ'] goes very much hand in hand with 'Sister Europe'. They're both very lyrical." (Melody Maker 1988)


Richard Butler: "This song happened in the most surprising way. I'm not a musician, but I sat down with a guitar and started playing these notes, and within hours I had the chord and the lyrics worked out." (Melody Maker 1988)


Richard Butler: "I was very drunk and it was very late one night when we were recording 'Sister Europe' and I remember our producer, Steve Lillywhite, saying, 'Sing it like you were picking up a telephone and it's four in the morning and you're just speaking down it'." (Melody Maker 1988)


Richard Butler: "The magic songs like 'Imitation Of Christ' and 'Sister Europe' have is in their fragile nature. It's what I love about some Velvet Underground songs, or Prince's 'The Cross'. They're very fragile and only just hold together and I think that adds something." (Melody Maker 1988)


Richard Butler (on this song and "Imitation Of Christ"): "I think they sound pretty good both going together. They're both from the first album that we did with Steve Lillywhite. They're both very moody songs." (MTV Europe 1988)


Richard Butler: "I used to sing 'Sister Europe' very angrily. And I remember Steve Lillywhite getting me back in the studio and saying, 'Why don't you go down to the pub, have a couple of beers, and when you come back I want you to sing it like it's three in the morning and you're talking on the telephone to someone.' It was a good way of putting it, and it was a good way of letting go of having to feel like you're angry with every song." (iJamming! 2001)


Richard Butler: "We did a video for 'Sister Europe' with Don Letts, but how much exposure that got I'm not sure." (iJamming! 2001)


Interviewer: "Can you talk about arranging?"

Mars Williams: "I got to 'stretch out' on 'Sister Europe', 'All Of This And Nothing' and 'Heartbreak Beat'. The opening sax line on that last track? I played it, then wrote it out. I arranged the horn lines." (Penny Black Music 2009)


Richard Butler: "I've always had to be talked into that sort of crooning stuff. I'm trying to think... With 'Sister Europe,' I remember Steve Lillywhite saying, 'Look, Richard, I want you to sing this one by imagining that you'd been awakened at 3:30 in the morning by somebody calling you on the phone. I want you to imagine that you're talking to them.'" (Metro Times 2010)


John Ashton: "A lot of [The Psychedelic Furs] was pre-written by virtue of the fact that the band had been around a couple of years. So there were songs there. I joined the band in '78, and 'Sister Europe' was already a song, a version of 'Imitation Of Christ' was there, 'We Love You' was already there. And there were other songs that were coming along, like 'India,' that I brought to the band. 'Fall' was another, and 'Blacks/Radio,' which was just kind of a jam." (Popdose 2012)


Tim Butler (on being asked if songs like "India" and "Sister Europe" reflected the sound of The Furs' early beginnings or if they're part of the transformation when the band learned how to play and write songs): "I think 'Sister Europe' is more going toward writing songs with space. 'India' was pretty much a jam in the studio that Richard started singing over the top of." (Westword 2013)


Tim Butler (on The Furs' influence on modern bands): "I can hear in some of the guitar parts and the mood of a lot of the music nowadays. It's crazy that a band like Korn recorded a cover of 'Love My Way.' It's weird. Their music is totally different from our music. The Foo Fighters cover 'Sister Europe.' It makes you feel good." (Cleveland Scene 2014)


Interviewer: "I heard the Furs for the first time on a promotional, sampler record of new music that included 'Sister Europe' from your self-titled debut album. What I was drawn to was the dreamy, swirling sound of your guitar work. I couldn't help but notice some similarity in sound on your Satellite Paradiso recording. Did you strive to create a sound reminiscent of the early Furs records?"

John Ashton: "Yes, I mean, I think I've always done what I've done. My sound is usually heavy rhythm guitar and I use effects quite extensively; mostly flangers and a little chorus, which is the 'Sister Europe' wobbly guitar sound.  I tend to write in that way. I come up with a rhythm and a line that goes over it. That's the riff." (Veer Magazine 2015)


John Ashton: "You know I've always gone for the big sound so 'Dumb Waiters' has always been a favorite of mine as was 'Sister Europe,' 'Pretty In Pink.'" (Veer Magazine 2015)


Interviewer: "This incarnation of the band, with Mars Williams (saxophone) in particular, certainly could lead to some exciting musical territory live. What are we going to see and hear at this show? 'Pretty In Pink'? 'Sister Europe'?"

Tim Butler: "We all play those songs but in a slimmed-down version without the over-production. We dig deeply into our album tracks. We play the classics pretty straight but we will add something in at the spur of the moment if that happens onstage." (Orlando Weekly 2016)


Tim Butler: "Richard used to sing 'Sister Europe' in a more aggressive way and Steve was like, 'Think of it as a late night in a smoky bar or pub and it's all quiet. Keep it more low key, the way you sing it,' and he did. And it turned out to be a better way of doing it." (Classic Pop 2019)


Tim Butler (on the Foo Fighters covering "Sister Europe"): "I thought it was cool because I like the Foo Fighters and they're a huge band, so it got the song heard by a lot of people who'd maybe never heard of The Furs." (NME 2020)


Interviewer: "[The Psychedelic Furs] seems an album of two parts within, including the debut single, the tremendous 'We Love You', and further more overtly punk-influenced tracks like the hypnotic 'Pulse' and the closing 'Flowers', in a Bowie meets John Lydon style, but also giving us clues to the band you became, tracks like 'Sister Europe' and 'Imitation Of Christ' telling us loud and clear where you might be headed and that you were here to stay."

Tim Butler: "Err, yeah, I think originally when we got together none of us could really play very well, so we'd all pile in if someone came up with a chord sequence, trying to make ourselves heard and stick out in a sort of 'look at me' way. It became that wall of melody, or 'beautiful chaos' as someone dubbed it.
"But with later songs like 'Imitation Of Christ' and 'Sister Europe' I think Steve gave us more direction and took us more away from the punk area. With 'Sister Europe', Richard used to sing it with more of an attitude and some aggression. But Steve said, 'Why don't you imagine it's late at night and tone it down a little bit – not croon it, but sing it more laidback'. And he did, and it gained a lot."

Interviewer: "Absolutely, and you hear that difference in Richard's voice between those tracks, let alone the rest of you in the band."

Tim Butler: "Yeah, I think he realized he had more of a range in the vocal areas than he initially thought. And over the years that got better and better and better. I think he's one of the best, most distinctive vocalists of the last 40 years." (WriteWyattUK 2020)


Interviewer: "What are your favorite classic Psychedelic Furs songs to play?"

Rich Good: "'Soap Commercial', 'Sister Europe', 'Dumb Waiters', 'Only You And I', 'Alice's House'… Honestly, there's not really any I don't like playing." (Post-Punk.com 2022)


Richard Butler (on being asked from an audience member if he had any training with his voice): "Nobody brought that voice out in me. It's just always been my voice. One thing that Steve did was – when we were kind of a 'new wave', punk rocky influence band I remember doing 'Sister Europe' and singing it full-voiced. And Steve said, 'No no no, imagine that you're on the phone with your girlfriend and it's late at night, and try and sing it with that voice'. And that was a – that was a change. And that was a different way of looking at the way you could sing. It's just putting yourself in a different position." (Malloy Lecture In The Arts interview, 2023)


Rich Good: "The mood and the haunting feel, that's the stuff that any band is desperate to have." (Palm Springs Life 2024)


Rich Good (on the time when he first joined The Psychedelic Furs and had to learn how to play the songs for three months before touring): "They gave me this huge list of like, I don't know, 35 songs or something. Which to me was a lot to learn. And I would just sort of get pedals based on what was on the record and try to sort of emulate all the sounds. So immediately I'm like getting choruses and flangers and delays and that kind of stuff. Because I wanted it more than anything. I just wanted to be able to sound like The Furs."

Interviewer: "So you didn't have any... you just had the music? There was no notes, no tab, no [inaudible], the effects used on these songs? You just... 'Here's the music, see you in three months?'"

Rich Good: "I think I did manage to find one. There was a really old website that had these cool little graphics that was like a rig, I can't remember what it was. You might remember that website, I forget what it was called. It was something to do with rigs, and that did actually have one page about John Ashton's rig. But it was like his rig from 1981. Which was actually good because it did turn me on to a couple things. But yeah, aside from that, I just had to sort of research and be like, well, how do you get this giant jet engine sweep that's on 'Sister Europe' from a flanger? Which it sounds simple enough but like it's really specific. And so I went through a couple of flangers and I landed on the MXR one in the end, the big black one for that." (The Over/Under Podcast 2025)


Tim Butler (on the band not adding songs that rely heavily on the saxophone on setlists after the passing of Mars Williams in 2023): "There are certain songs that we can't do because without a sax it wouldn't be the same thing, like 'Sister Europe', which has a long sax solo in it which you can't replace." (The Yorkshire Post 2025)

Behind the Songs: India

Photo: Terry Lott


Interviewer: "What's the song 'India' about?"

Tim Butler: "Well, it's about India."

Interviewer: "Oh."

Richard Butler: "It actually started off being about the country India, but I change the lyrics all the time until I arrive at something final. So, it started off being about the country, cos we're called the Psychedelic Furs and all that business, and then Mountbatten [the uncle of Queen Elizabeth II] got killed and he had a daughter called India, so that came into it as well. Now, it's sort of half about the country and half about a girl – not Mountbatten's daughter – but the fact that India's a girl's name. I'll have to have a big re-think about the lyrics before it's actually recorded for the album cos the album will sort of freeze it. It doesn’t mean I can't change the lyrics in the future cos the lyrics to a lot of songs change from day to day, but recording it will be a very important time so we'll have to think about the lyrics in terms of that." (Slash 1980)


Richard Butler: "I like 'India', that's my favorite track." (ZigZag, March 1980)


Duncan Kilburn: "We hope to do most of the new songs [from the upcoming Talk Talk Talk album live]. It would be great not to have to touch the old material apart from the obvious favorites like 'India' and 'Sister Europe'. We're in a better position to play new material live now that we no longer have to promote our first album any more." (ZigZag, October 1980)


Interviewer: "Was the B-side of the 'Sister Europe' 45 ["****"] originally intended as the introduction of 'India'?"

Richard Butler: "No. We used it as the intro to 'India' afterwards. It's the introduction to 'India' played backwards." (Overview 1981)


Richard Butler: "'India' is a comparison between India and the USA. The most important line is 'India / I'm American, ha-ha.' A very abstract song." (Sounds 1981 [German magazine])


Richard Butler: "I think it's nice to take an audience through a kind of variety of feelings, you know? Like, you might sing 'Love My Way' which is the kind of tender song, and you might sing 'President Gas' which is a really angry one. And you want the audience to feel like – say, in 'Sister Europe' you want them to feel that kind of sad, sort of melancholy, and then in 'India' you want them to feel angry, you know? It's like you want them to... you want to take them through a whole spectrum of feelings." (La Edad de Oro 1984 [Spanish TV])


Richard Butler: "A lot of people have picked up on us through 'Pretty In Pink' (and) I'm glad that it means they're coming down to the shows because we're not presenting just 'Pretty In Pink' or Mirror Moves, we're presenting stuff that goes way back, like 'India' or 'Sister Europe', which I think are important songs." (Winner Magazine 1986)


John Ashton: "I'd say that fifty percent of what I heard on that first [demo] tape is there on the first album. We'd written a few things together - 'India,' 'Wedding Song' - but I think the whole sound of the Psychedelic Furs evolved around that year." (Musician 1987)


Richard Butler (on being asked if "India" was about America): "Not directly. I mean, it had America mentioned in it. I think some of the early songs like 'India' was just the idea of it to me was it was an angry song. It wasn't about anything. It was about my anger." (Radio Luxembourg 1987)


Richard Butler: "I put phrases and ideas together [in songs] that I liked. I could say something and then pass over it and move on to something else. A list of things I felt angry about would be a song like 'India'." (Sounds 1987)


Richard Butler: "John really wanted 'India' on [All Of This And Nothing], but Tim hates it. We were having almighty fights about what should be on the record and Tim just said, 'I don't want "India" on it, I think it's a dirge' and with that he [__] off back to New York. Out of respect for that, we left it out." (Melody Maker 1988)


Richard Butler: "We wanted a lot of noise and we just asked people we knew, 'What do you wanna play?' So Duncan (Kilburn) went off and bought himself a saxophone. When we started we used to get compared a lot to Roxy Music because we used a sax, but it wasn't like that at all. We just did what we did, making up songs as we went along on stage, playing songs like 'India' for 15 minutes. We weren't looking over our shoulders. People always want to make sense of chaos. And they always do." (Q Magazine 1991)


Richard Butler: "'India' was written during Vince [Ely's] audition for the band, and we were so pleased with it that he got the job. The idea of the long introduction was for it to be recorded quite quietly at first, so people would turn up their stereos to get it to a 'normal' level, then when the song started, it would be incredibly loud and send everybody running to turn it down." (Should God Forget liner notes, 1997)


John Ashton (on the recording of "Imitation Of Christ"): "I was experimenting with an early guitar synth, an Arp Avatar. The best thing about it was its Hex Fuzz. I also used it on 'India.'" (Should God Forget liner notes, 1997)


Tim Butler: "Even though we were playing minimally back then, we were playing minimally in interesting ways, which made it sound more complicated than it was. Our songs were a wall of simple melodies, hummable melodies. Not that you can hum 'India,' I don't think I'll ever be at a bus stop and hear someone whistling 'India!'" (Goldmine 1998)


Tim Butler: "We had learnt more how to write songs. Talk Talk Talk is still aggressive and passionate, which the first one was as well, but the songs are more sculpted, more song-like, they're not jams. Things like 'India' and 'Blacks/Radio' you go into a studio and jam them. Whereas on Talk Talk Talk, we spent some time actually formulating the structures." (Goldmine 1998)


Interviewer: "What are your personal favorite Psychedelic Furs songs and why? Which do you enjoy playing live?"

John Ashton: "'Dumb Waiters' for its sheer full on attack. 'All Of This And Nothing', 'India', 'Pretty In Pink', 'President Gas', 'Heaven', and 'Highwire Days', for pretty much the same reason." (Modern Guitars Magazine 2005)


Tim Butler (on his brother Simon): "He was in [the band] for a while… Simon actually helped write 'Imitation Of Christ' and 'India.'" (Intermittent Signals 2011)


John Ashton: "A lot of [The Psychedelic Furs] was pre-written by virtue of the fact that the band had been around a couple of years. So there were songs there. I joined the band in '78, and 'Sister Europe' was already a song, a version of 'Imitation Of Christ' was there, 'We Love You' was already there. And there were other songs that were coming along, like 'India,' that I brought to the band. 'Fall' was another, and 'Blacks/Radio,' which was just kind of a jam." (Popdose 2012)


Tim Butler (on The Furs' early years): "I think people may have latched on to us at the time because they were bored with the three-minute format of punk, and they could get lost in long songs like 'Imitation Of Christ' or 'India', you know?" (Tucson Weekly 2013)


Tim Butler (on being asked if songs like "India" and "Sister Europe" reflected the sound of The Furs' early beginnings or if they're part of the transformation when the band learned how to play and write songs): "I think 'Sister Europe' is more going toward writing songs with space. 'India' was pretty much a jam in the studio that Richard started singing over the top of." (Westword 2013)


Interviewer: "From your time in Psychedelic Furs to today, what is your fondest memory of your career?"

John Ashton: "There are a lot of memories that come flooding back at different times but, John Cale getting on stage with his viola at The Ritz in NYC and jamming on 'India' has to be up there!" (Officially A Yuppie 2014)


Tim Butler: "One of the first times we met [David Bowie] we were playing in Harrah in New York in our first album tour. We'd finished the set, and we didn't used to do encores. But we'd finished the set and David Bowie came bursting into the dressing room with David Byrne [of Talking Heads]. They introduced themselves, and David Bowie said, 'David Byrne and I were just arguing over who's going to produce your second album.' That was the first time we met him – we met him other times over the years – but he said, 'Why don't you do an encore?' And Richard said, 'Well, we don't usually do encores.' And he goes, 'Go on, go and do another one!' So we went out and we did 'India' [laughs]. A request from David Bowie." (Music-Illuminati 2018)


Tim Butler: "I think ['Don't Believe'] is the most – the one that most harkens back to the early sort of aggression of The Furs; circa 'India,' the first album." (Interview with Kyle Meredith, 2020)


Interviewer: "The name 'Caroline' shows up not only in 'Pretty In Pink,' but also in 'India.' So, who is Caroline?"

Richard Butler: "No person, it's just I like the name. Mary I think appears in a couple of songs too. Yeah, I like Mary for its very vague religious connotation. But I've used Mary and Caroline, and I think I've used Susan a couple of times too." (Songfacts 2020)


Interviewer: "Speaking of 'India,' you were not living in America at the time and you were kind of taking a jab at the stereotypical ugly American in the song. Can you talk about that lyric?"

Richard Butler: "I remember hearing stories about Goa and how all the hippies, mainly Americans, would go over there, and there were needles all over the beach and what a ruin it was."

Interviewer: "Did you say Goa? I'm not familiar with that."

Richard Butler: "Yeah, it was a hippie destination [in India]. It turned out to be a junkie destination, and a lot of American hippie tourists went there. But it was kind of laughing, kind of sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek when it says, 'India, I'm American, ha ha ha.'" (Songfacts 2020)


Tim Butler: "I think we had a couple of songs that came out of jamming around one song onstage, and something would develop. 'India' came out of that, from the intro to 'Flowers' off the first album. That's a bit psychedelicky. Though there were no psychedelic drugs involved. Maybe a few pints of lager! Maybe more than that." (Tower Records 2020)


Tim Butler: "Some of those songs live were even longer than they were on [The Psychedelic Furs], and different songs would come out of jamming around – I think 'India' was originally an intro for 'Flowers'." (Uncut 2020)


Tim Butler: "At the moment 'Don't Believe' is my favorite [on Made Of Rain] because it harkens back to the force and sound of a song like 'India', guitar-wise, vibe-wise." (Uncut 2020)


Richard Butler: "We wanted ['The Boy That Invented Rock & Roll'] to be eerie and dark, but if we'd wanted it to have a big heralding opening we might have done something a little more like the beginning of 'India' for instance." (Vive Le Rock! 2020)


Tim Butler (on his parents): "From the early days they were really proud of us though. Of course, in the early days there was talk of us getting proper jobs, and how we couldn't rely on this music, but Richard and I have stuck at it, while Simon dropped out and went to university. He was in the original band and co-wrote 'Imitation Of Christ' and 'India'. Yeah, they were always proud of us. When they had friends over they would bring out their scrapbook." (WriteWyattUK 2020)


Rich Good: "It's relentless. It has this grand opus beginning that's almost pompous, and then bam!" (Palm Springs Life 2024)


Tim Butler: "When we started out, we couldn't really play well, so we sort of went for more of the Velvet Underground-y, elongated songs. We'd jam around and stuff, trying to work out our instruments, basically. The whole sound of songs like 'India' was just everybody [in the band] trying to be noticed; it was like a wall of chaos. We were huge Roxy Music fans, too. Because Roxy Music has very interesting song arrangements; not your usual verse / chorus / middle eight / verse/ chorus. So we took our cues from those two bands." (Musoscribe 2025)